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 Post subject: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:59 pm 
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Sevens sports show this morning and the Roo called it as he saw it

Apparently as he sees it, Port need to delist or trade about 30 of their team.

P Burger - Delist or retire
D Pearce- Trade
T Logan - Not good enough for AFL, delist
T Thurstans, Not good enough delist
B Ebert - Trade or delist
J Carr - force to retire

I bet they want him on every week

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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
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Sevens sports show this morning and the Roo called it as he saw it

Apparently as he sees it, Port need to delist or trade about 30 of their team.

P Burger - Delist or retire
D Pearce- Trade
T Logan - Not good enough for AFL, delist
T Thurstans, Not good enough delist
B Ebert - Trade or delist
J Carr - force to retire

I bet they want him on every week



He ripped that straight off my list on here after the last game.

I'm suing the plagiarising b@stard.

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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:35 am 
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spence wrote:
Sevens sports show this morning and the Roo called it as he saw it

Apparently as he sees it, Port need to delist or trade about 30 of their team.

P Burger - Delist or retire
D Pearce- Trade
T Logan - Not good enough for AFL, delist
T Thurstans, Not good enough delist
B Ebert - Trade or delist
J Carr - force to retire

I bet they want him on every week



He ripped that straight off my list on here after the last game.

I'm suing the plagiarising b@stard.



LOL, I wish I could find some vid of it

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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
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Well in his defence, the other commentator (can't remember who) asked the questions and Roo simply answered.

I noticed they did not mention whether Williams should be there or not......

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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
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I hope the Cats try to get Salopek from the Power. He hasn't been playing much lately, but a stack of talent. Cats could use Ebert, too.


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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
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spence wrote:
Sevens sports show this morning and the Roo called it as he saw it

Apparently as he sees it, Port need to delist or trade about 30 of their team.

P Burger - Delist or retire
D Pearce- Trade
T Logan - Not good enough for AFL, delist
T Thurstans, Not good enough delist
B Ebert - Trade or delist
J Carr - force to retire

I bet they want him on every week


P Burger - Delist or retire - Agreed! Has head issues, ace ball burner, soft...
D Pearce- Trade - Agreed! Downhill skier, cant shake a tag and still doesn look like learning how. Soft.
T Logan - Not good enough for AFL, delist Agreed - Works hard, just simply isnt up to the grade in general.
T Thurstans, Not good enough delist - Agreed! Has taken ten years to accumulate 100 games and has never been close to being in the best 22.
B Ebert - Trade or delist Agreed. Although more a trade case than delist. Has ability,, limited leg speed and tank however. New club and new role might do him some good.
J Carr - force to retire. Nah, keep him as a reminder of what a moronic bit of recruiting that was! :lol: I expect to hear that his ankle injury is worse than expected and he's decided to retire as a result. Face saving exercise all round.

This'd just be a start... They have enough spuds to open a greengrocers.... 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
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spence wrote:
Sevens sports show this morning and the Roo called it as he saw it

Apparently as he sees it, Port need to delist or trade about 30 of their team.

P Burger - Delist or retire
D Pearce- Trade
T Logan - Not good enough for AFL, delist
T Thurstans, Not good enough delist
B Ebert - Trade or delist
J Carr - force to retire

I bet they want him on every week


P Burger - Delist or retire - Agreed! Has head issues, ace ball burner, soft...
D Pearce- Trade - Agreed! Downhill skier, cant shake a tag and still doesn look like learning how. Soft.
T Logan - Not good enough for AFL, delist Agreed - Works hard, just simply isnt up to the grade in general.
T Thurstans, Not good enough delist - Agreed! Has taken ten years to accumulate 100 games and has never been close to being in the best 22.
B Ebert - Trade or delist Agreed. Although more a trade case than delist. Has ability,, limited leg speed and tank however. New club and new role might do him some good.
J Carr - force to retire. Nah, keep him as a reminder of what a moronic bit of recruiting that was! :lol: I expect to hear that his ankle injury is worse than expected and he's decided to retire as a result. Face saving exercise all round.

This'd just be a start... They have enough spuds to open a greengrocers.... 8-)

Carlton might show interest in Pearce and Ebert if they were bandied about. For a Steven Browne and/or 2nd-3rd round pick type trade....

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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:12 pm 
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The Cunning Punt wrote:
They have enough spuds to open a greengrocers.... 8-)


The perception of a list's quality is often judged by the success of the team rather than a true evaluation of the players. Case in point is Geelong of 2007. Some said it was one of the greatest teams of all time... 2 years later and they're looking like just a good team with some key deficiencies.

Port made a GF 2 years ago. They've shown this year that their best should have them competing for a top 4 position, but far too often have served up their worst which is more worthy of a bottom 4 spot.

Our list is far from terrible - it's got a good blend of experience, players in their prime and young guns. 1 year ago on paper, most people looked at the list and were saying top 4.

The main problem is our gameplan, which seems to have caused Choco to have lost the players. They don't believe in it and it shows. Some players simply haven't developed as expected, perhaps because of the gameplan (e.g. Pettigrew, Ebert, Salopek). Others need to be given more time to develop in their deficiency areas (e.g. Pearce, Westhoff).

Other than a few obvious players, such as Thurstans and Carr, the only cleanout required is in the coaching box.


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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
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Ashby - lets be honest, it was a mystery how the Paps made the GF in 2007 - the result was an accurate reflection of where they stood - ie the margin. At the beginning of this year I couldn't see why people thought they would make the finals, and that has been borne out. Even if they somehow do, they haven't REALLY - 10 wins is a bad bad season. They are a mediocre list with more than one or two selfish players. I rate Pearce and Salopek but they are a dime a dozen these days...


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ashby wrote:
The Cunning Punt wrote:
They have enough spuds to open a greengrocers.... 8-)


The perception of a list's quality is often judged by the success of the team rather than a true evaluation of the players. Case in point is Geelong of 2007. Some said it was one of the greatest teams of all time... 2 years later and they're looking like just a good team with some key deficiencies.

Port made a GF 2 years ago. They've shown this year that their best should have them competing for a top 4 position, but far too often have served up their worst which is more worthy of a bottom 4 spot.

Our list is far from terrible - it's got a good blend of experience, players in their prime and young guns. 1 year ago on paper, most people looked at the list and were saying top 4.

The main problem is our gameplan, which seems to have caused Choco to have lost the players. They don't believe in it and it shows. Some players simply haven't developed as expected, perhaps because of the gameplan (e.g. Pettigrew, Ebert, Salopek). Others need to be given more time to develop in their deficiency areas (e.g. Pearce, Westhoff).

Other than a few obvious players, such as Thurstans and Carr, the only cleanout required is in the coaching box.


Welcome aboard ashby. Hope you stick around!

Be nice to have another Port supporter who thinks about the football!

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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
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Ashby - lets be honest, it was a mystery how the Paps made the GF in 2007 - the result was an accurate reflection of where they stood - ie the margin. At the beginning of this year I couldn't see why people thought they would make the finals, and that has been borne out. Even if they somehow do, they haven't REALLY - 10 wins is a bad bad season. They are a mediocre list with more than one or two selfish players. I rate Pearce and Salopek but they are a dime a dozen these days...


It isn't a mystery at all. Go and have a look at Ports win rate in matches decided by less than 2 goals. It was something like won 7 lost 1. When you convert that highly in that area, you'll go high up the ladder. Problem for Port was they met Geelong on a day when they wanted to show the country how good they were, to be honest, I'm glad it wasn't my team playing them that day.
Port has a few problems.
1) Not enough players get their own ball. If someone is getting it for them they look like superstars but when it isn't happening, it just turns to water.
2) Take Kane Cornes out of the centre. You can't afford 2 defensive players in the centre and that's what Dom and Cornes are. Also don't kick to Kane if he falls back to a defensive pocket. The kiddy struggles to kick over a jam jar, he is not the player you want with the ball in his hands in the back pocket.
3) Play to win. No holding the ball above your head, no chipping it around and for chrissakes if you're up ten goals to two with six minutes left, why would you even think of running down the clock?
4) Play Chad at CHB and leave him there.
5) attack, attack, attack.

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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
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Why would Carlton show any interest in any of those hacks mentioned? You must be kidding. Blues getting a band of kids who have a go and wouldn't want neither of those outside soft c@#ks in Pearce and Ebert. Only Salopek or Boak for mine thank you, and i have doubts on Salopek, too much like Bentick for mine, just not quick enough, and i don't think Boak will be available. Nah, No thanks Port, not interested in trading thank you, you've got nothing!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:06 am 
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spence wrote:
horseboy wrote:
Ashby - lets be honest, it was a mystery how the Paps made the GF in 2007 - the result was an accurate reflection of where they stood - ie the margin. At the beginning of this year I couldn't see why people thought they would make the finals, and that has been borne out. Even if they somehow do, they haven't REALLY - 10 wins is a bad bad season. They are a mediocre list with more than one or two selfish players. I rate Pearce and Salopek but they are a dime a dozen these days...


It isn't a mystery at all. Go and have a look at Ports win rate in matches decided by less than 2 goals. It was something like won 7 lost 1. When you convert that highly in that area, you'll go high up the ladder. Problem for Port was they met Geelong on a day when they wanted to show the country how good they were, to be honest, I'm glad it wasn't my team playing them that day.
Port has a few problems.
1) Not enough players get their own ball. If someone is getting it for them they look like superstars but when it isn't happening, it just turns to water.
2) Take Kane Cornes out of the centre. You can't afford 2 defensive players in the centre and that's what Dom and Cornes are. Also don't kick to Kane if he falls back to a defensive pocket. The kiddy struggles to kick over a jam jar, he is not the player you want with the ball in his hands in the back pocket.
3) Play to win. No holding the ball above your head, no chipping it around and for chrissakes if you're up ten goals to two with six minutes left, why would you even think of running down the clock?
4) Play Chad at CHB and leave him there.
5) attack, attack, attack.


Thank you Spence

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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
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spence wrote:
horseboy wrote:
Ashby - lets be honest, it was a mystery how the Paps made the GF in 2007 - the result was an accurate reflection of where they stood - ie the margin. At the beginning of this year I couldn't see why people thought they would make the finals, and that has been borne out. Even if they somehow do, they haven't REALLY - 10 wins is a bad bad season. They are a mediocre list with more than one or two selfish players. I rate Pearce and Salopek but they are a dime a dozen these days...


It isn't a mystery at all. Go and have a look at Ports win rate in matches decided by less than 2 goals. It was something like won 7 lost 1. When you convert that highly in that area, you'll go high up the ladder. Problem for Port was they met Geelong on a day when they wanted to show the country how good they were, to be honest, I'm glad it wasn't my team playing them that day.
Port has a few problems.
1) Not enough players get their own ball. If someone is getting it for them they look like superstars but when it isn't happening, it just turns to water.
2) Take Kane Cornes out of the centre. You can't afford 2 defensive players in the centre and that's what Dom and Cornes are. Also don't kick to Kane if he falls back to a defensive pocket. The kiddy struggles to kick over a jam jar, he is not the player you want with the ball in his hands in the back pocket.
3) Play to win. No holding the ball above your head, no chipping it around and for chrissakes if you're up ten goals to two with six minutes left, why would you even think of running down the clock?
4) Play Chad at CHB and leave him there.
5) attack, attack, attack.


Thank you Spence

I think I will forward this on to Chooco he needs a new game plan and this one will do

Why because you can't think of one?

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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:10 pm 
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Spinner wrote:
spence wrote:
It isn't a mystery at all. Go and have a look at Ports win rate in matches decided by less than 2 goals. It was something like won 7 lost 1. When you convert that highly in that area, you'll go high up the ladder. Problem for Port was they met Geelong on a day when they wanted to show the country how good they were, to be honest, I'm glad it wasn't my team playing them that day.
Port has a few problems.
1) Not enough players get their own ball. If someone is getting it for them they look like superstars but when it isn't happening, it just turns to water.
2) Take Kane Cornes out of the centre. You can't afford 2 defensive players in the centre and that's what Dom and Cornes are. Also don't kick to Kane if he falls back to a defensive pocket. The kiddy struggles to kick over a jam jar, he is not the player you want with the ball in his hands in the back pocket.
3) Play to win. No holding the ball above your head, no chipping it around and for chrissakes if you're up ten goals to two with six minutes left, why would you even think of running down the clock?
4) Play Chad at CHB and leave him there.
5) attack, attack, attack.


Thank you Spence

I think I will forward this on to Chooco he needs a new game plan and this one will do

Why because you can't think of one?


because anything would be better than what we have - although the current crappy one should be fine for a win this week ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
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Probably. Still you lost to Freo and Melbourne AND us with those tacticts so I wouldn't be too confident ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Ricciuto tears Port a new one
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Probably. Still you lost to Freo and Melbourne AND us with those tacticts so I wouldn't be too confident ;)


:lol: :lol: your right - I take it back :oops:

Spence's plan is needed this week, especially the 5) attack, attack, attack bit

Only a brave man would predict which Port will turn up and how many quarters they will hang arround for and given Norths form last week anything could happen

Still its our last game and I am going to watch it all and enjoy it - notwithstanding the pain that could be coming my way


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Re Ports delisting, I think as follows........ Retiring 1 Peter Burgoyne. Retiring 2 Brendon Lade Delist... 3 Danyle Pearce Delist... 4 Michal Pettigrew Do deal 5 Josh Carr for early retirement


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Re Ports delisting, I think as follows........ Retiring 1 Peter Burgoyne. Retiring 2 Brendon Lade Delist... 3 Danyle Pearce Delist... 4 Michal Pettigrew Do deal 5 Josh Carr for early retirement

Delist Pearce and Pettigrew??? Are you on drugs? Trade not delist.
Port might as well keep Carr and his walking frame another year....they paid him for two years. Might as well get the most out of him.

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Delist Pearce and Pettigrew??? Are you on drugs? Trade not delist.
Port might as well keep Carr and his walking frame another year....they paid him for two years. Might as well get the most out of him.


Trading Pearce and Pettigrew is almost inevitable because they're in dire need of at least one ready to roll ruckman and KPP, and preferably another of each who are very close. you could probably add Ebert and one fringe mid to that list as well.

If they dont flog some players I can see them very short of draft picks at the end of the process.

As for Carr, I cant see any point in playing him. He's usually gimped and only good for about 50% game time when fit. Given the Apes arent likely to cause much trouble in Sept in the foreseeable future, a smart club (ok, I see the problem with that) would have a quiet word in his ear suggesting that retirement might be more attractive than going around in the magoos all next season. Playing the little weasel next year will just take up game time that could be used for development.

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