It is currently Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:03 pm
Welcome to the SuperFooty Forum – the home of passionate footy talk. We’ve just launched the site, so you can be a part of it from the start. Read what others are saying, respond or start your own thread. You are able to read other people’s posts without registering, but to post your own you’ll have to register – it’s free and simple. Come and get involved! If you have any problems, please email us at administrator@superfootyforum.com.au

All times are UTC + 10 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 36 posts ]  | Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:10 pm
Posts: 897
Location: Sunshine Coast
Team: Essendon
EDIT:: (In response to Paulski (damn you all type fast)).

Yep. He's a good player.

He's also an inconsistent one. One that has a history of intense injury (despite playing through his back issues) and he's not the quickest bull in the pen.

The coleman medal is, like any other medal, no real indication of greatness. Don't make the horrible mistake of confusing prestige with actual brilliance. The brownlow, super-super prestigious but is only the umpire's point of view. Is there a better way of doing it? God, I don't know.. don't have the patience or smarts to even start thinking about it, but it is a flawed system, despite its prestige and weight in the community.

RE: Coleman: Look at Fev. Fev is only a good player. He has the potential to be brilliant, but he's about as consistent as the love-child of a yo-yo and a bowl of semi-set jelly.
Having limited competition as a forward target and getting a good delivery from a high, high quality mid-field and then just doing what you are paid to do as an elite athlete (read: kick straight) and you're in contention for the coleman. a-la Fev. a-la Brown.
Look at Buddy as a prime example. Sublime potential. Too much ego and poor work ethic to be the superstar he could be.

If i had the choice of Bradshaw or Brown for the team, Braddy all the way.

_________________
Image
SFF Div E: The Hungry Monkeys
http://www.dontfeedthemonkeys.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:56 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:58 pm
Posts: 16743
Team: Carlton
sly wrote:
EDIT:: (In response to Paulski (damn you all type fast)).

Yep. He's a good player.

He's also an inconsistent one. One that has a history of intense injury (despite playing through his back issues) and he's not the quickest bull in the pen.

The coleman medal is, like any other medal, no real indication of greatness. Don't make the horrible mistake of confusing prestige with actual brilliance. The brownlow, super-super prestigious but is only the umpire's point of view. Is there a better way of doing it? God, I don't know.. don't have the patience or smarts to even start thinking about it, but it is a flawed system, despite its prestige and weight in the community.

RE: Coleman: Look at Fev. Fev is only a good player. He has the potential to be brilliant, but he's about as consistent as the love-child of a yo-yo and a bowl of semi-set jelly.
Having limited competition as a forward target and getting a good delivery from a high, high quality mid-field and then just doing what you are paid to do as an elite athlete (read: kick straight) and you're in contention for the coleman. a-la Fev. a-la Brown.
Look at Buddy as a prime example. Sublime potential. Too much ego and poor work ethic to be the superstar he could be.

If i had the choice of Bradshaw or Brown for the team, Braddy all the way.

I disagree with you about Fev needing a quality midfield. He won the Coleman and was kicking goals when our midfield was shite. Remember the days when Fat Nick was our top midfielder? Fev, even then, made it happen and kicked hundreds of goals.

_________________
St00per wrote:
All I've ever said about Collingwood are that they're renowned wobblers, Davis plays like a school girl during finals, there are at least 7 or 8 criminals at the club (with another 7 or 8 criminals-in-the-making), they love alcohol and they're a bunch of cheats..

All fact. :)

ash1984 wrote:
Oh my god, you are the King of all Trolls...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:59 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:10 pm
Posts: 897
Location: Sunshine Coast
Team: Essendon
That is a very fair call BB. I was trying to say that more about his consistency, that as a Fev-fan, has left me feeling a little let down at times. (However, it may be that for awhile he's been the primary target, despite the fact some of the delivery has been dodgy.. but your midfield these days. God, makes a bombers supporter frothy!! hehe)
He's got flair, style, skill - but then some weeks i just wanna throttle his lack of ticker.

_________________
Image
SFF Div E: The Hungry Monkeys
http://www.dontfeedthemonkeys.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:10 am
Posts: 16885
Team: Carlton
sly wrote:
EDIT:: (In response to Paulski (damn you all type fast)).

Yep. He's a good player.

He's also an inconsistent one. One that has a history of intense injury (despite playing through his back issues) and he's not the quickest bull in the pen.

The coleman medal is, like any other medal, no real indication of greatness. Don't make the horrible mistake of confusing prestige with actual brilliance. The brownlow, super-super prestigious but is only the umpire's point of view. Is there a better way of doing it? God, I don't know.. don't have the patience or smarts to even start thinking about it, but it is a flawed system, despite its prestige and weight in the community.

RE: Coleman: Look at Fev. Fev is only a good player. He has the potential to be brilliant, but he's about as consistent as the love-child of a yo-yo and a bowl of semi-set jelly.
Having limited competition as a forward target and getting a good delivery from a high, high quality mid-field and then just doing what you are paid to do as an elite athlete (read: kick straight) and you're in contention for the coleman. a-la Fev. a-la Brown.
Look at Buddy as a prime example. Sublime potential. Too much ego and poor work ethic to be the superstar he could be.

If i had the choice of Bradshaw or Brown for the team, Braddy all the way.


:lol: :lol: :lol: So you just have a dislike of Brown personally then. Thats the only way I can imagine that you would think that Bradshaw is a better player than Brown. He obviously had a slow start to the year, but in the last 5 rounds has averaged 17 touches and 4 goals a game, while contributing an average of 5 goals per game. He pretty much won the game off his own boot on the weekend as well.

Fevola being the sole target is more a disadvantage as well. When was the last time he played a game 1 on 1? He generally has 2 on him and then a man 10m in front of him...

_________________
ash1984 wrote:
I still love dick


ash1984 wrote:
Blue Believer wrote:
Oh ok, don't have the ability to think for yourself? :?

No...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:03 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:10 pm
Posts: 897
Location: Sunshine Coast
Team: Essendon
No, no personal dislike. No reason to dislike him.

I'm not saying he's a bad player. God, I have eyes in my head. And 6-7 years ago, he WAS the cream of the crop.

WHEN he was the cream of the crop, he got the kudos he deserved for it in the media. What I am saying is (in my opinion only) he is no longer the cream of the crop, yet still gets that kudos in the media HENCE is overrated.

For example, Roo (despite looking like he's about to break out in tears), is at-this-point-in-time far and away the better CHF. However, Brown gets that kudos in the media.

*edit*
He was good on the weekend, but i'd put the winning game down to Rich.. just.

Quote:
Fevola being the sole target is more a disadvantage as well. When was the last time he played a game 1 on 1? He generally has 2 on him and then a man 10m in front of him...


NO DOUBT at all that you're dead right there. Spot on. And it's also a statement about the team, given that disadvantage to still do so well is commendable. You wouldn't probably see it at Freo, but having said that, the blues have had a dry 7 yeras finals wise... so yeah. Maybe my comments read more harshly than intended.

_________________
Image
SFF Div E: The Hungry Monkeys
http://www.dontfeedthemonkeys.com


Last edited by sly on Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:03 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:58 pm
Posts: 16743
Team: Carlton
sly wrote:
That is a very fair call BB. I was trying to say that more about his consistency, that as a Fev-fan, has left me feeling a little let down at times. (However, it may be that for awhile he's been the primary target, despite the fact some of the delivery has been dodgy.. but your midfield these days. God, makes a bombers supporter frothy!! hehe)
He's got flair, style, skill - but then some weeks i just wanna throttle his lack of ticker.

I think that these days -more often than not - he comes to play. He chases hard and tackles hard. There are times when I know for certain that Ratten has told him to stay in the forward 50 and not chase his man down field. Makes it difficult because when his direct opponent does set up a goal, Fev looks foolish.

_________________
St00per wrote:
All I've ever said about Collingwood are that they're renowned wobblers, Davis plays like a school girl during finals, there are at least 7 or 8 criminals at the club (with another 7 or 8 criminals-in-the-making), they love alcohol and they're a bunch of cheats..

All fact. :)

ash1984 wrote:
Oh my god, you are the King of all Trolls...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:10 pm
Posts: 897
Location: Sunshine Coast
Team: Essendon
Blue Believer wrote:
sly wrote:
That is a very fair call BB. I was trying to say that more about his consistency, that as a Fev-fan, has left me feeling a little let down at times. (However, it may be that for awhile he's been the primary target, despite the fact some of the delivery has been dodgy.. but your midfield these days. God, makes a bombers supporter frothy!! hehe)
He's got flair, style, skill - but then some weeks i just wanna throttle his lack of ticker.

I think that these days -more often than not - he comes to play. He chases hard and tackles hard. There are times when I know for certain that Ratten has told him to stay in the forward 50 and not chase his man down field. Makes it difficult because when his direct opponent does set up a goal, Fev looks foolish.


Yep. true.

And he was manning the kickout when pears was running off him a few weeks back.. really hard to do much about that.. yet the media played it up him.

_________________
Image
SFF Div E: The Hungry Monkeys
http://www.dontfeedthemonkeys.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:19 pm
Posts: 1671
Location: Adelaide
Team: Adelaide
Blue Believer wrote:
sly wrote:
That is a very fair call BB. I was trying to say that more about his consistency, that as a Fev-fan, has left me feeling a little let down at times. (However, it may be that for awhile he's been the primary target, despite the fact some of the delivery has been dodgy.. but your midfield these days. God, makes a bombers supporter frothy!! hehe)
He's got flair, style, skill - but then some weeks i just wanna throttle his lack of ticker.

I think that these days -more often than not - he comes to play. He chases hard and tackles hard. There are times when I know for certain that Ratten has told him to stay in the forward 50 and not chase his man down field. Makes it difficult because when his direct opponent does set up a goal, Fev looks foolish.


Ive notice there have been times this years where he doesnt do much wrong and yet the commentators on tv or radio make a huge thing about his attitude. Then it just gets blown out more than it should.

_________________
"They didn't change positions, they just moved the players around"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:10 am
Posts: 16885
Team: Carlton
sly wrote:
No, no personal dislike. No reason to dislike him.

I'm not saying he's a bad player. God, I have eyes in my head. And 6-7 years ago, he WAS the cream of the crop.

WHEN he was the cream of the crop, he got the kudos he deserved for it in the media. What I am saying is (in my opinion only) he is no longer the cream of the crop, yet still gets that kudos in the media HENCE is overrated.

For example, Roo (despite looking like he's about to break out in tears), is at-this-point-in-time far and away the better CHF. However, Brown gets that kudos in the media.


I dont think he's changed in quality. Reiwoldt has come onto the scene in a big way, and is a more reliable bloke around the ground...but IMO, if I wanted a forward target that is there to kick goals and to be a clutch player, I'd rather Browneye at Carlton. He's a much better kick and he's a really tough team player. They're both awesome...and overall Rooey is definitely better...but he's better because of his work between 40-100...rather than Browneyes 20-60, which is what we're in desperate need of :D

_________________
ash1984 wrote:
I still love dick


ash1984 wrote:
Blue Believer wrote:
Oh ok, don't have the ability to think for yourself? :?

No...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:58 pm
Posts: 16743
Team: Carlton
Henry boy wrote:
Blue Believer wrote:
sly wrote:
That is a very fair call BB. I was trying to say that more about his consistency, that as a Fev-fan, has left me feeling a little let down at times. (However, it may be that for awhile he's been the primary target, despite the fact some of the delivery has been dodgy.. but your midfield these days. God, makes a bombers supporter frothy!! hehe)
He's got flair, style, skill - but then some weeks i just wanna throttle his lack of ticker.

I think that these days -more often than not - he comes to play. He chases hard and tackles hard. There are times when I know for certain that Ratten has told him to stay in the forward 50 and not chase his man down field. Makes it difficult because when his direct opponent does set up a goal, Fev looks foolish.


Ive notice there have been times this years where he doesnt do much wrong and yet the commentators on tv or radio make a huge thing about his attitude. Then it just gets blown out more than it should.

It is good to see that supporters of other clubs notice the bullsh!t and hype that surrounds everything to do with Fevola.

_________________
St00per wrote:
All I've ever said about Collingwood are that they're renowned wobblers, Davis plays like a school girl during finals, there are at least 7 or 8 criminals at the club (with another 7 or 8 criminals-in-the-making), they love alcohol and they're a bunch of cheats..

All fact. :)

ash1984 wrote:
Oh my god, you are the King of all Trolls...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:55 pm 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:49 pm
Posts: 15257
Location: On the banks of the Farr Canal.
Henry boy wrote:

Ive notice there have been times this years where he doesnt do much wrong and yet the commentators on tv or radio make a huge thing about his attitude. Then it just gets blown out more than it should.


Yeah, then the game starts! :lol:

_________________
Crower wrote:
Don't try to cover the truth. You know what I say is true. I'll try to get a photo of you to post here... a real photo not some web schnit.

You don't realise how much I know about you.

Waiting, waiting, waiting!... :roll: :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:04 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:19 pm
Posts: 1671
Location: Adelaide
Team: Adelaide
The Cunning Punt wrote:
Henry boy wrote:

Ive notice there have been times this years where he doesnt do much wrong and yet the commentators on tv or radio make a huge thing about his attitude. Then it just gets blown out more than it should.


Yeah, then the game starts! :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: u funny bastard

_________________
"They didn't change positions, they just moved the players around"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:58 pm
Posts: 16743
Team: Carlton
St. Fly wrote:
Since we already have Rooey I'll take Brown to become unstoppable thanks.

Found this for sale on E-bay!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&item=250467957789#ebayphotohosting

Might have to put in a bid...

_________________
St00per wrote:
All I've ever said about Collingwood are that they're renowned wobblers, Davis plays like a school girl during finals, there are at least 7 or 8 criminals at the club (with another 7 or 8 criminals-in-the-making), they love alcohol and they're a bunch of cheats..

All fact. :)

ash1984 wrote:
Oh my god, you are the King of all Trolls...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:33 pm
Posts: 4464
Location: :noitacoL
Team: St Kilda
Blue Believer wrote:
St. Fly wrote:
Since we already have Rooey I'll take Brown to become unstoppable thanks.

Found this for sale on E-bay!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&item=250467957789#ebayphotohosting

Might have to put in a bid...


Blackburn South huh?

Now all I have to do is go down to Tulla hire a plane and carpet bomb the place, cheers.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:10 pm
Posts: 897
Location: Sunshine Coast
Team: Essendon
Blue Believer wrote:
St. Fly wrote:
Since we already have Rooey I'll take Brown to become unstoppable thanks.

Found this for sale on E-bay!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&item=250467957789#ebayphotohosting

Might have to put in a bid...



:lol: :lol: :lol:

_________________
Image
SFF Div E: The Hungry Monkeys
http://www.dontfeedthemonkeys.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Franklin, Fev, Brown, Reiwoldt or Mitch Morton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:10 am
Posts: 16885
Team: Carlton
St. Fly wrote:
Blue Believer wrote:
St. Fly wrote:
Since we already have Rooey I'll take Brown to become unstoppable thanks.

Found this for sale on E-bay!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&item=250467957789#ebayphotohosting

Might have to put in a bid...


Blackburn South huh?

Now all I have to do is go down to Tulla hire a plane and carpet bomb the place, cheers.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

_________________
ash1984 wrote:
I still love dick


ash1984 wrote:
Blue Believer wrote:
Oh ok, don't have the ability to think for yourself? :?

No...


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 36 posts ]  View unanswered posts | View active topics | Go to page Previous  1, 2

All times are UTC + 10 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Privacy policy | Terms and Conditions
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group & HWT